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This workshop is part of the Graphics Lab, a project aimed at picture retouching to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. More information about the lab can be found on its main page and requests pages (Illustrations ; Photographs ; Maps ; Video and Sound). To ask questions or make a suggestions, see the talk page of the graphic lab page.

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Simple map(s) of Finnish Defence Forces Areas of Responsibility from early 1950s

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Article(s): en:User:Ljleppan/Polttoainehankinta

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(Moved from Commons:File requests)
I'm not certain what the best source map would be, but I'd appreciate a Commons-compatible version of the map of Figure 6 (page 37) of this PDF (also accessible via this link) for the draft currently at en:User:Ljleppan/Polttoainehankinta. In addition to the Areas of Responsibility, it would be good to show the locations of en:Helsinki, en:Porkkala and a few of the larger cities (Perhaps en:Turku, en:Vaasa, en:Oulu, en:Rovaniemi and en:Ivalo if possible without sacrificing legibility?).
I'd also greatly appreciate Commons-version of the map(s) in Figure 5 (page 31) of the same PDF, but that's less of a priority. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ljleppan (talk • contribs) 09:25, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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  Request taken by MallardTV (talk) 11:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC) this seems simple enough! I’ll do it this afternoon.[reply]

Here!
 
Finnish Defense Forces Areas of Responsibility from early 1950s
MallardTV (talk) 14:59, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ljleppan: Pinging the requester because this request was sent over a year ago, and the user has already created another map: File:Polttoainehankinta-areas-of-responsibility.svg 2001:14BA:9C40:0:9ED:B0DE:21D:D193 16:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect/missing colors of waterbodies

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Article(s): en:Vironniemi

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The map above is just an example; there are probably 100+ of these maps with incorrect/missing waterbody colors on maps of Helsinki. File:Helsinki districts.svg is the base map file and has the correct coloring; please compare it to the image above. Those incorrect maps were made by User:Stadscykel who later fixed some of them (e.g. Special:Diff/43585007, Special:Diff/43585930), but most of those maps still have incorrect/missing colors. Related discussions on fi.wikipedia: link and link, and here on Commons: link. --JAAqqO (talk) 01:06, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If someone ever decides to fix these, here is a list of 130 map files that need fixing:
List
--JAAqqO (talk) 19:23, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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JAAqqO, please check the sample you highlighted which I have uploaded a new version of. If correct, the good news is that it is easy to recreate each map from the base File:Helsinki districts.svg (of course, the bad news is there are 130). Chipmunkdavis (talk) 02:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chipmunkdavis, yes, that one looks good now, thank you. --JAAqqO (talk) 04:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One of the discussions you linked mentions the colours are a poor choice for colour-blind users, may be worth considering that too before editing 130 files. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 02:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Mauryan Empire Map.png

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Please convert the file extension from png into svg (without lossing colour and quality).--Lord Buddha 1 (talk) 12:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since international borders are shown in this map, the border of Tibet, which is not independent, needs to be removed. Oirattas (talk) 13:38, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the svg above. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:54, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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User-editable maps for more countries

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Can someone adapt the template for other countries too?

These SVG maps have user-editable sections (any text editor) to allow creation of more maps on more topics. See examples at Category:English-language SVG maps of the United States made with templates.

Version 2: Convert a US list/table to a state-by-state data map. With examples and step-by step instructions. Example:
 
Homicide rates per 100,000 by state. FBI.
Simple map below with state names and colored states. See its talk page.
 
Medicaid expansion map of US. Affordable Care Act

--Timeshifter (talk) 19:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Timeshifter. I am not sure to directly help here but I would like to share some thoughts related to your request:
  • I found that for many users editing a "simple" text file such as svg is not so obvious. For this reason I think it will be nice to have a graphical interface to do so. For this reason I started working on a tool like this one. The interface is not very good but it has some nice features to help editing maps. I can upload more maps if needed.
  • Few years ago I made a proposal to seaparate the css files from the svg. In fact, we have a lot of maps that represent the same countries or regions but need different colours. I though that it will be good to have one svg with the geographica representation and a separate file for the colours. There was some intresting discussion on this but not accepted.
  • I think we will need to have some deeper discussion on the format for this kind of svg maps. I personally belive that it will be good to have some classes and features in the svg that can help automatic detection of specific elements or machine use for editing.
Sure this is not in line with your request but I hope this may help. Thanks Ikonact (talk) 08:19, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ikonact. cmglee is the main creator of the map templates. Maybe he can tell us what he thinks of your maps.
I have a question. Is there a way to paste in a list of states and values into your maps. To make maps with the data on the maps. That is what is possible with cmglee maps. It is very easy to do. Just need the list. A good set of colors is already in the map. Those colors can be changed.
cmglee can probably adapt this data map template method to other countries and their subnational areas (states, provinces, etc.). --Timeshifter (talk) 17:53, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a useful tool, @Ikonact: Though I prefer scripting, I can see other editors preferring a GUI. Will it have a way to save a draft and resume editing, or to load someone else's map to make changes?
I didn't see your proposal in 2017, and would very much welcome having SVG files referencing or transcluding other files. I've been using a hack using systemLanguage so that a single SVG can generate different thumbnails, e.g. for each tower's article:
     
     
   
A limitation is that all variants must already be in file. Can we build on this idea? Cheers, cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 09:39, 10 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cmglee: I remember, I have seen your svg with the towers and I find it a good idea. I find it a twist as the purpose of the systemLanguage is different but I agree it is a good work around. The main issue is that this will not work for multiple elements - if you wish to highlight several states on a map for example. I will be glad if we can propose something that make sense. I have to admit I am playing solo for the moment :-) Ikonact (talk) 13:33, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, @Ikonact: Ian Furst (talk · contribs) contacted me five years ago to create SVG that can selectively show any combination of selected medical symptoms, and we encountered the same problem. I ended up creating a template using en:template:location_map+ to make something like this. It might work for some niche use-cases. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 15:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Timeshifter: I have not done pasting list of states and values in teh code for this map but it is planned and I can work on this. I agree that this is useful. Ikonact (talk) 13:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A Map for the Ajuran Sultanate

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Ajuran Sultanate: [[]]

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(details of your request go here...) --Karamumkaram (talk) 14:02, 7 April 2024 (UTC) The map needs to be based on the one from [[2]][reply]
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A Map for the Ajuran Sultanate

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Ajuran Sultanate: [[]]

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(details of your request go here...) --Karamumkaram (talk) 14:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC) The map needs to be based on the one from [[3]][reply]
I've also requested one of the Horn of Africa c. 13th century which might include Ajuran Kowal2701 (talk) 19:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fixing arrowheads in an SVG map

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Article(s): en:Empire of the Sultans, a Featured Article Candidate

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This is a valid SVG file edited in Inkscape but saved as plain SVG. When I look at this file in Inkscape or in a web browser, the arrowheads are pointing in the correct direction. When viewed on Wikimedia, the arrowheads all point to the right. Any help is gratefully received for getting the arrows to render properly on Wikimedia. --MartinPoulter (talk) 16:18, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated this to a version without arrowheads. The previous version had the arrowhead problem: I still welcome advice on how I can put arrows into diagrams in Inkscape and have the arrowheads render properly on Wikimedia. MartinPoulter (talk) 15:29, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Updating EU maps with the UK

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These maps of the European Union (and likely more! this I found in the same category) still have the United Kingdom, despite it having leaving years ago. --Juwan (talk) 17:00, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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If there are a lot you could consider creating a category like Category:Maps needing South Sudan political boundaries. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 04:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added the above maps to Category:Maps of the current European Union with the United Kingdom. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 13:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Map of the route from the Varangians to the Greeks

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Article(s): en:Route from the Varangians to the Greeks

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I would like for the original image of 2017 (uploaded by Minnekon) to be restored, but with en:Truso in the correct place (namely on the right bank of the Vistula, as Artur Andrzej tried to move it in 2023). The issue with the 2023 correction is that the overall quality of the image has degraded. I tried to fix the problem myself by editing the 2017 original and moving Truso to the right bank in Microsoft Paint, but I got much the same result as Artur Andrzej in 2023. It probably has something to do with the .gif format that I do not understand. If anyone can make a higher-quality image in any other kind of format (like .svg), perhaps even with a different underlying map altogether, but showing much the same information, that would also be appreciated; I'm not tied to this image in particular. --Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 07:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Article(s): List of first-level administrative divisions by area (for example)

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Hello, having initially posted this request on the Commons:File requests page, it was suggested that I redirect here instead. Is it possible to create maps in the "SVG locator maps (location map scheme)" format for the States of Somalia? From what I see, this is one of the rare administrative subdivisions that does not yet have a map in this format. It would therefore be in addition to the regions of Somalia, which have their own category. --Ellicrum {bablute [...]} 13:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Vectorize map

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Article(s): en:PDF, de:Portable Document Format,

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Could someone use the first map as a reference to put an overlay of the highlighted red area into a vector map, like the second map in the gallery (preferably zoomed in more on Germany, like in the first map)? -- Colohisto (talk) 01:36, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seitengröße PDF 7.svg already exists. NNW 17:31, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Europe FoP map

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Article(s): w:en:Freedom of panorama (to replace Commons-slanted EU-FoP map in the article, which is supposed to be neutral (and not excessively favor Wikimedian perspective) per w:en:WP:NEUTRAL.)

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  1. Change the color for both Belarus and Ukraine to yellow from red, as both have non-commercial FoP (yellow is for non-commercial FoP countries).
  2. Change also Sweden to light green as there is indeed FoP only for buildings, but no commercial FoP for monuments and public art.
  3. Add Kosovo, as dark green (yes FoP since October 2023).
  4. Add Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, and the Vatican City - as red.

Regards, --JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 14:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@JWilz12345: Can you describe why File:Freedom_of_Panorama_in_Europe.svg cannot be used instead? cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 07:56, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cmglee (note: the ping didn't work for some reason, but this page is on my watchlist as of now)
It is based on the Commons perspective (in which non-commercial uses are treated as "not OK"). But since that article is in English Wikipedia, it should be neutral and should not favor on Wikimedia side. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 08:02, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JWilz12345: Got it. Did you mean "should not favor on Wikipedia side"? I think we should copy the code from File:Freedom_of_Panorama_in_Europe.svg and modify as needed to maintain consistency. cmɢʟee ⋅τaʟκ 08:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Cmglee ah yes, though for average readers, they always treat Wikipedia and Wikimedia as a single community. But that is another story.
And yes, it is best to use the same map. I've read somewhere that the former version of File:Freedom_of_Panorama_in_Europe.svg was purportedly hard to edit, and I assume the NC map used the same mapping code. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 09:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

African history map of kingdoms and empires

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Article(s): en:History of Africa, en:List of kingdoms in Africa throughout history

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Hi, I was wondering if anyone could put together a map of Africa overlayed with the maximum extent of some major kingdoms and empires. I can provide a list of kingdoms and empires that'll give a fair representation of the continent's history, although many of them might overlap so maybe have the fill transparent? At the moment we use File:African-civilizations-map-pre-colonial.svg which has extraordinary bias towards west and north Africa, and gets some of the territory wrong such as for Aksum and Hausa (which was never a kingdom). The map used would ideally include Arabia, the Levant, and some of Iberia as these were territories which were covered. The style I'm happy to leave to you, although I'd like it to be colourful. --Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zanahary: Alexanderkowal (talk) 12:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for making this request! To the graphist: also important to include are Madagascar’s pre-colonial unified kingdoms. Zanahary (talk) 21:09, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When we compile the list you can pick the Malagasy ones, it's just they'll all be overlapping with Imerina Alexanderkowal (talk) 21:11, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ability to distinguish "D" (for decriminalized) on US map on cell phones

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Please see: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps#Ability to distinguish "D" on map on cell phones. We need some more participants. See map in article (at top right):

--Timeshifter (talk) 11:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Map of the Second Polish Republic superimposed on modern borders

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Article(s): en:Second Polish Republic, en:Territorial evolution of Poland, etc

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Could someone make an svg map of the borders of the Second Polish Republic as of 1929 superimposed on modern European borders? Two versions would be best, one blank and one with locations and names of important cities that either was previously inside Poland (like Lviv and Vilnius) and cities that became a part of Poland after World War II (like Wrocław)? --Colohisto (talk) 05:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Gender self-identification map

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Article(s): en:Gender self-identification

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Can someone please update this map to have France and Greece shaded? Both countries are cited in the Europe section of the linked Wikipedia article as allowing self-ID. Helper201 (talk) 22:22, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done! https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gender_self-identification&oldid=1234307484 Arisaie (talk) 17:36, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Arisaie, is there a reason you didn't update the base map? This would fix the issue for all language wikis. Best, Chipmunkdavis (talk) 14:17, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Chipmunkdavis it's a work in progress - my account would not let me do that at the time. See: Commons:Help desk#c-Arisaie-20240713174200-Updating map svg - file name could not be kept as account too new. Arisaie (talk) 14:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noted! If you want someone else to do it let me know, otherwise will leave this open until you are able to update it yourself. Best, Chipmunkdavis (talk) 14:28, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Poland 2024 local government authorities

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Article(s): pl:Zarządy województw VII kadencji

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I would like to ask someone to create map for local goverment authorities aftes 2024 local election in Poland, there is example for map https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Władze_na_szczeblu_wojewódzkim_(2018).svg

to do this map i would let the colours to use and abbrevation:

Dolnośląskie KO-TD-BS Kujawsko-Pomorskie KO-TD Lubelskie PiS Lubuskie KO-TD Łódzkie KO-TD-Lewica Małopolskie PiS Mazowieckie KO-TD Opolskie KO-ŚS-TD Podkarpackie PiS Podlaskie KO-TD Pomorskie KO-TD Śląskie KO-TD-Lewica Świętokrzyskie PiS Warmińsko-Mazurskie KO-TD Wielkopolskie KO-TD-Lewica Zachodniopomorskie KO-TD-Lewica

colours: KO E19F39 TD 96D544 BS BS2023 PiS 073A76 Lewica ac145a ŚS 0D2E51

--Aight 2009 (talk) 00:44, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Removal of Eastern European Summer Time in Ukraine

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Article(s): en:Summer time in Europe

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starting October 27, Ukraine will no longer observe summer time (sources in article above). it means that Ukraine will be coloured yellow instead of ochre. technicalities: Russian-occupied regions follow a different separate time zone (UTC+03:00) all year round (fact-check?). see file page for more information. --Juwan (talk) 14:26, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Si Vonne: Hi, I noticed that you updated Ukraine in the above image. As stated in en:Time in Russia#Russian Federation, all Russian-occupied regions claimed by Ukraine (Crimea, Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk and Zaporizhzhia) are on Moscow Time. I think they should be shaded in alternating green and yellow like on this map. What do you think? Qzekrom (talk) 04:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Article(s): Numerous articles in different languages across Wikipedia.

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File:UN member states animation.gif needs to be updated by including South Sudan, which became independent on 9 July 2011 and became a UN member on 14 ‎July 2011, which remains the newest country and UN member today. --Oirattas (talk) 22:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Horn of Africa (Ifat and Ethiopia) c. 1300

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Article(s): en:History of Africa, en:Africa

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Really just the Ifat Sultanate and Ethiopia is needed, but if you could include Ajuran and Warsangali in the corner that'd be grand. There are images on wikicommons of all of these that can be copied. --Kowal2701 (talk) 19:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Map(s) of proposed LaGuardia Airport subway extensions

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Article(s): en:LaGuardia Airport subway extension

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One or two maps showing both proposed extensions of the BMT Astoria Line to LaGuardia Airport, as illustrated on pages 17 and 18 of this 2022 PDF from the Port Authority. This can be one image showing both alignments or separate images for each. The current Astoria Line should be in this yellow (#fccc0a, PMS 116) while the proposed alignments can be a lighter shade of yellow. --Qzekrom (talk) 01:01, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Map of the Battle of Peregonovka

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Article(s): Battle of Peregonovka

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Hi everyone. The article about the battle of Peregonovka needs a map depicting the battle. In Colin Darch's 2020 book Nestor Makhno and Rural Anarchism in Ukraine, 1917-1921, he includes a map by cartographer Jenny Sandler depicting the overall battle (Map 5.1 The Engagement at Peregonovka, September 1919), based on the White movement's own maps published in the 1960s. If someone here would be able to draw up a similar map, based on Sandler's work, that would be very much appreciated. Something similar to the Waterloo campaign or Battle of Stalingrad maps would be ideal. --Grnrchst (talk) 10:09, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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British Leeward Islands

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Article(s): en:British Leeward Islands

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Please create maps of the British Leeward Islands, just mark, preferably in red, the following islands:
1833-1871 and 1940-1958 - Antigua, Barbuda, Montserrat, Redonda, Saint Christopher, Nevis, Anguilla and British Virgin Islands
1871-1940 - Same islands as above plus Dominica
If possible, I would prefer not to mark any boundaries other than those of the BLI colony. Swiãtopôłk (talk) 16:04, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Projection for California

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Article(s): en:1970 California gubernatorial election

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I have extracted only the California portion of the 1968 U.S. presidential election's congressional district map to create a congressional district map for the 1970 California gubernatorial election, but I cannot match the projections. --Dmsu (talk) 07:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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MIR payment system map

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Article(s): Mir (payment system)

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I am short on time right now, but the map needs to be edited to mark the Russian occupied territories of Ukraine as disputed, perhaps with a grey/green stripe pattern. The grey colour may also need to be lightened to #C0C0C0. --Minoa (talk) 13:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Article(s): en:Yu'an, Lu'an

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(1) The little orange and pink spots should be removed from the en:Yu'an, Lu'an map (File:ChinaLuanYuan.png) somehow. I don't have the appropriate computer program to do this. The original uploader told me concerning a request to correct the en:Jin'an, Lu'an map (File:ChinaLuanJinan.png), after I had already pointed out the problem with the en:Yu'an, Lu'an map: "No. Please, don't disturb me agaqin. I'm not working on request." at 19:38, 21 May 2022 (UTC)- Revision #657865447. Therefore, I bring my request here since I don't want to disturb the original uploader. (2) I don't know if there is any other problem with the map; I would appreciate any deeper analysis. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:08, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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  Done PawełMM (talk) 11:33, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PawełMM: Hey thank you for your help! I see you removed the orange spot. However, there is still some orange spots in the lake immediately south-south-west of the Yu'an area (in red). Also, on the far east of the map, there is a pink spot. Do you see them??? Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:37, 19 August 2024 (UTC) (Modified)[reply]
  Half done There are still problems with the new map. Using Microsoft Paint, I have created a new image that I added above showing (with MS paint-created circles) the additional aberrant spots on the map. All of these spots should not appear on the map, and I request someone remove them somehow. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 01:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Map of 123 Agreements countries

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Article(s): en:Section 123 Agreement

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Adding map of countries who signed 123 Agreement with USA would be useful. Source: https://www.energy.gov/nnsa/123-agreements-peaceful-cooperation --Nemoralis (talk) 10:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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@Nemoralis: Please check this map and let me know if fine for you? --Ikonact (talk) 22:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Nemoralis (talk) 09:38, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Done --Ikonact (talk) 10:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Marking as
  This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. CMD (talk) 13:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Russia Map Border

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Article(s): Jewish Autonomous Oblast

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Moscow's boundaries need to be updated, they are outdated. --– Illegitimate Barrister (talkcontribs), 21:37, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fehmarnbelt

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Article(s): de:Fehmarnbelttunnel

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Can we please convert this into a free license? Thanks --Bigbossfarin (talk) 06:13, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This may be possible by modifying File:Fehmarnbeltbrücke.svg. CMD (talk) 16:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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