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Broken File: "File:Départements_et_régions_de_France_-_Noname-2016.svg"

The file File:Départements_et_régions_de_France_-_Noname-2016.svg is broken, in the sense that the file doesn't render (both Safari and Chrome, so likely not browser specific) on the file page or on wikipedia. When visiting https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/D%C3%A9partements_et_r%C3%A9gions_de_France_-_Noname-2016.svg, there is a parser error at the top of the page and a rendering of the page up to the first error. The specific parser error mentioned is "error on line 735 at column 35: Namespace prefix Inkscape for label on path is not defined". How can this be fixed? TheTrueShaman (talk) 00:35, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

@TheTrueShaman: Hi, and welcome. It works for me on Chrome Version 127.0.6533.101 (Official Build) (64-bit). Pinging @Hairy Dude, Otourly as uploaders.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:34, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: The file was fixed by Hairy Dude the day before you responded. Thanks for checking anyways! TheTrueShaman (talk) 03:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Photos of Hussein Onn

Since we can't be certain if his photo is from before 1963 or possibly after, and whether it can be freely used without copyright restrictions, do you think we should consider removing it? Baginda 480 (talk) 16:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

His other photo also write taken before 1963, I think I need to ask everbody Baginda 480 (talk) 16:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

FWIW, Hussein Onn in en-wiki describes this photo as "Official Potrait [sic] 1973". That edit was made by User:Shahril4487, who has very few edits, all on en-wiki and all within less than 20 minutes on one day, so probably a throwaway account. - Jmabel ! talk 23:49, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Pinging @CaradoWindows as uploader. - Jmabel ! talk 23:52, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

That's why I'm curious if the date of this image is fabricated or set just to evade copyright law, especially since COM:Malaysia has written, "Because the 1987 extension was not retroactive, works made by authors who died before 1962 are in the public domain in both Malaysia and the US according to URAA, as well as anonymous, cinematographic, photographic, sound recording, broadcast, or corporate works published prior to 1962." Baginda 480 (talk) 02:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello, i took the 1963 date from this other file, uploaded in 2013: File:Tun Hussein Onn (MY 3rd PM).jpg

However, looking now, their reference is a dead link. The information on this photo is very unclear. CaradoWindows (talk) 15:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

I've searched extensively online and found no information about these photos, nor any evidence proving they were taken before 1963. Baginda 480 (talk) 15:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

No problem, I was going to request the deletion, but someone else did it already

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tun Hussein Onn potrait.jpg CaradoWindows (talk) 15:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Removing Old Photos

Good morning

Can you tell me how old photos can be removed from WikiCommons? CQuick (talk) 02:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Typically, someone who uploads a piece of media can ask for it to be deleted with no more justification within a brief period of time. If a piece of media has been here for a long time, there will have to be some kind of reason why they should be deleted. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:16, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Generally there needs to be a reason for it to be deleted. Commons:Deletion policy. If you are thinking of any type of old photos in particular, you might get a more detailed answer if you specify. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 02:19, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

@Infrogmation, @Justin How do I go about doing this? Its old headshots of myself. A new one has been added so though it would be best to take the older ones away. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CQuick (talk • contribs) 16:36, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@CQuick: my first gut is "absolutely not". This is a photo archive that is at least partly in service of an encyclopedia. Images that show what someone or something looked like at some date in the past are of more or less the same importance here as recent images. - Jmabel ! talk 19:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel That's a fair point. I'm happy to keep the photos up in that case. CQuick (talk) 12:19, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Downloading an Image on

Can I download an image from Wikimedia commons and use it on my website if it has the following rights under its description? and if I put the attribute in the description section of the image does that mean am okay to use it?

You are free: to share – to copy, distribute and transmit the work to remix – to adapt the work Under the following conditions:attribution – You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use. share alike – If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you must distribute your contributions under the same or compatible license as the original. Js Trent (talk) 12:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

@Js Trent There is a link "Cite this page" in the left hand menu item. My experience is that choosing the style you wish from the list with opens on the page for the file you wish to use is perfectly sufficient. Others may give you additional advice.

An example is File:Tun Hussein Onn potrait.jpg where the "cite" link opens thus 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 14:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

@Js Trent and Timtrent: actually, that is not a correct answer. That is how to cite the page in a bibliography, not how to attribute it when reusing.

Different images have different licenses, and so the requirements differ. Js Trent, it sounds like you are describing a CC-BY-SA license of some sort.

• You must link to the specific license (which would mean having a specific version number for the license, which I can't even guess from what you wrote here). Online, that should certainly be a live link to a URL.
• You must give "appropriate credit". If the file page specifies a particular attribution use, that. Otherwise, it will typically be something like "Wikimedia Commons user such-and-such". If you say what file you are talking about I can give you a specific answer.

I could be much more specific if you would say exactly what file you are talking about, rather than just quote part of the license summary. - Jmabel ! talk 19:08, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel I'm grateful for the correction. It seems counter-intuitive, though, that the cite link does not do the job one might expect it to. Perhaps Commons needs a menu link to "Create Attribution"? 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 22:26, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Timtrent: That would be the "Use this file" link. Yes, it would be much clearer if they were near one another; not under my control. - Jmabel ! talk 22:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel Thank you. Took me ages to find that link, hiding in plain sight! The wording of that link is not exactly obvious, until, of course, it is.

My apologies @Js Trent for misleading you in good faith! 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 22:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Logo de TotalEnergies

Buenas, se puede publicar el Logo de Total Energies (https://totalenergies.com/company/identity/history), fundada en 1924 en Francia??Estará al Dominio Público?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 17:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

¿Sabes en cual año empezaron a utilizar el logo este? ¿Y en cual país tienen su sede? - Jmabel ! talk 19:12, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel:Buenas, TotalEnergies fundó en 1924 pero el primer logo creó en 1954 por ejemplo (https://1000logos.net/total-logo/) estará al Dominio Público tanto Francia como EEUU?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 07:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Entonces el logo es de 2021 y el COM:TOO será de fráncia. La ley francés srefiere a « l'empreinte de la personnalité de l'auteur » (la huella de la personalidad del autor), que me aparece presente en el logo este. Entonces, no supongo que nostoros podamos aceptarlo sin licencia. - Jmabel ! talk 19:20, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel:Pero y si público un Logo antiguo de 1954,se puede publicar con {{PD-textlogo}}?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 21:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

El de 1954-1955, claramente. Los de 1963-1970, 1970-1980, y 2003-2021, no estoy seguro. Los otros, no. - Jmabel ! talk 22:38, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

El de 1954 se puede publicar con {{PD-France}}?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 12:36, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

{{PD-textlogo}} o {{PD-ineligible}} - Jmabel ! talk 18:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jmabel:{{PD-textlogo}} AbchyZa22 (talk) 19:48, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Some images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons were not shown on Google Lens image search

An image of a BART train during the last run event on 20 April 2024

I uploaded the image on Wikimedia Commons a few days after the event on April 20. However, I found a lot of similarities of this image, such as different people posting this on X. I also posted this image, which is the same as the image on Wikimedia Commons. Both versions were taken by me.

In the meantime, I searched this image on Google Lens and the classic Google Image search. None of the images from Commons came up on these searches like the one on the right. This image was uploaded as CC0, and the other image is CC-BY-SA 4.0. When I searched "legacy BART trains" or the BART train last run event, I did not find any images of that kind on Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons; it shows images taken from other people on social media platforms and YouTube.

After searching BART trains filtered from images from Commons in Google Images, a few images from 2023 or later showed up. Unfortunately, some images do not have a "licensable" tag, and some images contained the text "Images may be subject to copyright." Images of BART trains taken after April 2024 in Wikimedia Commons were not shown when I searched Google Images of it. I don't know why some images from Wikimedia Commons did not show up on Google Lens or Google Image search. Evan0512 (talk) 19:13, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

@Evan0512: What help are you requesting? We have no control over how quickly Google Lens indexes our content. - Jmabel ! talk 00:00, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

I thought some Wikimedia Commons images were found on Google Images. I mean about specific images on Wikimedia Commons that found no results of matching images on Google Images and Google Lens, like TinEye. I requested help because I was shocked when I tried to search Google about this image as seen above, which showed little or no results for Wikimedia but similar images elsewhere. When I click Google Lens tab of a specific image on Commons, it results in a low-resolution image displayed on Google Lens. Evan0512 (talk) 06:19, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@Evan0512: I'm sorry, that doesn't clarify what you are asking someone here to do or say. As I said, we have no control over how quickly Google Lens indexes our content. - Jmabel ! talk 19:23, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello

I would like to ask if anyone knows of any Malaysian government websites where photos of high-ranking officials (such as the Prime Minister) are available for free use? Recently, I've been uploading photos of Mahathir Mohamad, but they are all sourced from foreign websites (like the Indonesian or Japanese government websites), and none from Malaysia. Does anyone know of any Malaysian government website where such photos can be freely used? Baginda 480 (talk) 07:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Why can't I replace a painting with a better version of it?

I want to use this versionː https://www.flickr.com/photos/magika2000/5870187312

to replace this versionː File:Saint-Philipe at Sole Bay mg 0505.jpg

For some reason commons doesn't accept that. DavidDijkgraaf (talk) 12:32, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

To overwrite files, you'd need to be an autopatroller or above. Your proposed version is visually different enough that it should be uploaded as a new file (but the Flickr copyfraud of "all rights reserved" might make upload difficult). Abzeronow (talk) 17:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Not really difficult. The source of a PD image is irrelevant to our ability to accept it, though of course it should be documented.

Download to your computer, upload to Commons. Indicate the source, but ignore the copyfraud and just give an accurate PD license. - Jmabel ! talk 19:25, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Especially with artworks we shouldn't replace images, but always upload as a new version. 1. The source of the image is different, but the description is not changed when replacing. So we are actually falsifying data by replacing. 2. The older version from an older source might also be an older version of the artwork. Older in the sense of before a possible restoration. Again by replacing we would not only be falsifying the description, but also destroying actual information.

What is the hassle of just uploading a new image? None really.

You can also replace your new image where the other image has been used before.

If there is a wikidata-item for the artwork, you could just replace the image in wikidata. This way your "better" image will automatically be reused interwikiwise. Wuselig (talk) 20:56, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

@DavidDijkgraaf: Please upload the full-resolution (2133 × 1268) version of the file. --Geohakkeri (talk) 18:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Upload an image of 1938

Hello :) .

I would like to upload to Commons an image of a Cuban film from 1938. I downloaded the image from a website. I think it should be ok to upload it due to Cuban copyright laws, but I want to be sure before I do it.

Thanks in advance. Nonickillo (talk) 18:36, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Do you know when all of the principal creators of the film died? It could still be in copyright. Cuba is 50 PMA. Abzeronow (talk) 18:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

It seems that the director of the film died in 1992. But about the photographers I have no information. Nonickillo (talk) 18:58, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Then this film can only be uploaded here in 2043. You could see if your local Wikipedia would accept non-free media if you plan on using the image for an article. Abzeronow (talk) 19:10, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Ok @Abzeronow, got it :) . That's it, I want to use it to illustrate an article. I will try fair use in this case. Thank you very much for your help. Nonickillo (talk) 20:49, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Old version of file being displayed

I recently uploaded a new version of Anthony Ciampi seated.jpg that is of better quality and is cropped and straightened. However, when I view the file, it continues to display the old version. When I try to re-upload the new version as either a new file or to overwrite the existing one, it says it is an exact duplicate of the current file. I've tried refreshing and null edits but no change. Any ideas what's going wrong? Ergo Sum 18:19, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

@Ergo Sum: Probably just a caching issue on your end. - Jmabel ! talk 18:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Discolored old photo

The original color of the old photo is black and white, but it can become discolored overtime due to some reasons. This discoloration often takes on a yellow. Speaking of which, I discovered that there are two problems:

1. Where should files about the discolored old photo be categorized? Category:Yellow photographs?
2. The discolored old photo are no longer black and white, then should we still be placing the category "Black and white" photographs?--125.230.82.39 19:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

For example, File:Chen Tian.png shows black and white, and File:Chen Xian-cha.jpg shows yellow.--125.230.82.39 19:28, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Your second example is not discoloured by age, but sepia-toned. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Need to recover our page

Hello Mr./Miss, I'm Faisal from Batterlution Ltd, Shenzhen, China. Last year our page was deleted, whose user ID and page name was " Batterluion ". My urge to the Wikipedia authority is to help us to get back our page. What procedure do we have to follow let guide us.

Thank you Faial Bin Ashab Overseas Technical Support Engineer at Batterlution Email: faisal@batterlution.com Phone/WhatsApp: +8613264910540 Batterlution (talk) 09:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

For reference, I am unsure what page he is talking about but @Achim55 mentioned such an article here User_talk:Batterlution#Commons is not for Wikipedia articles. I have a bit of suspicion this might be self promotion, but we could import it to draftspace on wikipedia. Immanuelle ❤️💚💙 (please tag me) 09:18, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Batterlution: You are blocked on enwiki and now you are trying to drop a promotional article here on Commons which has been deleted. Even if it were written in a neutral, not advertising manner it would be out of Commons' project scope. --Achim55 (talk) 10:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello

Can everyone help me check if the image I just uploaded complies with copyright? This is my first time using a photo from that website. Baginda 480 (talk) 10:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Hope everybody help me to reviewed the image Baginda 480 (talk) 10:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Baginda 480: Hello, You are not the German Federal Archive and you cannot use this source template. Please see the FAQ of the German Federal Archive: "May I upload pictures of the Federal Archives on Wikimedia Commons? No [...] It is explicitly prohibited for users to upload images from the Federal Archives." [1] -- Asclepias (talk) 12:37, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Asclepias: Thanks. I tagged it as a copyvio and Yann deleted it.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:27, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Notwihthstanding the copyright status of the image in question, a FAQ on a web page does not override copyright law. The site in question hosts images from 1860 onwards, at least some of which are likely to now be in the public domain. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing: Then the German Federal Archive can upload the PD ones using the appropriate source template and PD tags. No other Commons users are authorized.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:04, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Since when do we need their - or anyone's - authorisation to upload PD works? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing Since we embarked on a cooperation project documented at Commons:Bundesarchiv and {{BArch-image}}, our largest donation.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Please explain how that's binding on Wikipedia editors. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:16, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Asclepias: You brought it up.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:00, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Wall plate

I have a wall plate made in 1886 by painter Leon Senf It is quite good condition . I am wondering if it is of interest and possibly what it would be worth. O would like to sell it if possible as I am getting older now and have no one I could appreciate it. I would very much like to know your thoughts on this please.

Kind Regards,

Helen Constant 2A02:C7C:E346:D500:9917:C27D:418B:B0A3 10:51, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

My thought is that this is a page specifically for asking for help in using Wikimedia Commons, and therefore not an appropriate place to ask this. - Jmabel ! talk 18:52, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Завантаження файлів

Файли не опубліковуються. У формах наявні 6 помилок. Виправте помилки і спробуйте знову. Які помилки? Петро Симак (talk) 14:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sannita (WMF): FYI re lack of highlights for Upload Wizard errors.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jeff G. @Петро Симак (Sorry to reply in English) We're on it, but I cannot still tell when a fix will come. We are currently investigating this. Sannita (WMF) (talk) 15:27, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Karl Maria Wiligut

Hi, I'm researching Karl Maria Wiligut, and I noticed that the photo of him on his Wikipedia page, and in Wikipedia Commons is actually of Himmler, and not Wiligut. I've come across several photos of Wiligut in biographies, and I'm quite sure they are correct and Wikipedia has the wrong image. However, I don't have any particular copyright permission to upload the correct image/s. Can you advise, please? Woozlette (talk) 16:02, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

@Woozlette: Certainly bring this up on the talk page of the Wikipedia page, and add {{Fact disputed}} with the basis of your contention to the relevant file page here on Wikimedia Commons. You don't say what Wikipedia page or what photo, and since there are articles on him in 14 languages, I'm not going to make any assumptions about what photo you are talking about. - Jmabel ! talk 18:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Making an assumption, his ear doesn't look like Himmlers.[2][3] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

File needs to be cropped - badly

File:Sgt. Robert Carrington Middleton (1875-1916) Leeds Special Constabulary.png

Please make this file above only of the oval photo and leave in the name under it and the "Leeds and Yorkshire" reference - the surrounding writing/text should all go (be edited out, which I have tried to do, but FAILED).

The photo needs to be titled: Mr Robert Carrington Middleton (1875-1916)

Thanks Srbernadette (talk) 10:49, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: For reference, asking help with cropping files is better done at COM:GL, but I think cropping files should be the least of your concerns at the moment. What makes you think File:Sgt. Robert Carrington Middleton (1875-1916) Leeds Special Constabulary.png has been released under a {{Cc-zero}}? How do you know that the "The person who associated a work with this deed has dedicated the work to the public domain by waiving all of their rights to the work worldwide under copyright law"? Your screenshot of the photo states the image's copyright is owned by the "British Library Board, All Right Reserved". That might not be correct, but it's a bit of a jump to go from that to "cc-zero". Your user talk page seems to indicate that you've had issues with previous files uploaded to Commons, and it appears that you might be back at it again. For example, you uploaded File:Anne Grosvenor, Baroness Ebury and her son Francis Grosvenor, 8th Earl of Wilton.webp as {{Cc-by-2.5}} but there's no indication the file has been released as such in the newspaper article, you've cited as the source. Why do you think that file is licensed as "cc-by-2.5"? Are you just randomly selecting licenses that you think might be OK? -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:40, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I am so sorry, I thought that because this photo was in a UK newspaper from 1916 that all was OK...I honestly don't know what to do...I will stop editing for sure. Sorry again. Srbernadette (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: I didn't post what I did to try and get you to stop editing. A photo published in a 1916 British newspaper, despite the claim made by the en:British Library Board, almost certainly seems to be within the public domain under UK copyright law per COM:United Kingdom#Ordinary copyright; so, perhaps all that needs to be done is for the licensing to be tweaked. The other image is from 1933 and that one might be trickier to assess. The main concern is that you seem to be "guessing" when it comes to licensing when you apparently don't know what to do, and seem to have been guessing for quite some time now. Maybe instead of guessing in the future, it would be better for you to ask for help first at COM:VPC before uploading a file whose copyright status you're unsure about. Many COM:Creative Commons licenses are OK for Commons, but the copyright holder has to be the one to release their work as such; so, perhaps you shouldn't use such licenses except for 100% original photos you've taken yourself, not photos of other photos taken by others or scans from websites or print publications. -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:29, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Right, see Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems#Srbernadette.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

For cropping, see https://croptool.toolforge.org
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 13:28, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks and sorry to everyone. Thanks for your help with the CROPPING - IT WORKED!!!!

But I think it may be too big - can you please make it smaller a bit so that it looks a bit sharper?

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Sgt._Robert_Carrington_Middleton_(1875-1916)_Leeds_Special_Constabulary.png Srbernadette (talk) 13:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Srbernadette: Any png image will look fuzzy when scaled down (due to design decisions discussed in phab:T192744) or jaggy when scaled up.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:07, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Seems reasonable when thumbnailed (see right side). Personally, I'd crop label and outer border too.
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 18:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

cancellazione account

voglio cancellare il mio account poiché non lo utilizzo, come si fa? MasPro57 (talk) 14:13, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@MasPro57: Hi. Please see COM:FAQ#How do I close my account?.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:27, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Paste up grafitti

Would this picture be eligible for commons? The picture was taken in London and it seems that (based on what I've found on Google) that grafitti put up illegaly is not covered by copyright, but I want to be on the safe side, a number of grafitti images I've uploaded have been deleted for (apparently not counting as 'grafitti'). StarTrekker (talk) 20:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@StarTrekker: COM:CB#Graffiti seems to agree with what you found on Google. In cases such as this, you might need to consider not only the copyright status of the graffiti itself, but also the photograph of it. The photo you linked to above seems to have been released under a license that's accepted by Commons; so, it would, in principle, seem to be OK to upload. One possible concern, however, could be images of en:Brian Jones and other woman (don't know who she is) appearing in the photo. These don't strike me as being graffiti per se, but a COM:DW of perhaps some other work (perhaps a photo like shown here and here) that might still be under copyright protection. It looks like these two elements were glued on top of the rest of the work. That could make things more complicated. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Help needed with 1900-images: Test-image

Hello! I have now uploaded a test-image which serves as a template for the remaining ca. 1900 images I am also going to upload via OpenRefine. Could someone please have a look at the page of this test image and tell me, if I made any significant error, so that I can adjust the template (the data is created using a Python-script) for the remaining images? Thank you in advance! CalRis25 (talk) 18:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

Does the image actually illustrate "abacus" or might it refer to another article on the same page? In the later case, I wouldn't include it in the filename. (I read the explanation on the file description page ("Alveus is the lemma or headword of the article, in which the image appears").
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 18:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

• Yes, the image does illustrate the word and article "abacus" The section Structure of the file name contains only an example for a file name. This section is the same for all 1900 images. I just changed the page to make it clear that the file name is merely an example. Is there anything else? CalRis25 (talk) 08:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

  Ok. It sometimes happens that similar works include an image on the same page, but not necessarily directly within the entry. Also I thought the section "Structure of the file name" was just for the test. If not, I'd add it in the information template with " | Other fields = ", probably as a template.

  I hoped someone might suggest you a different way to fill "description=", "source=" and "creator=", but I didn't comment on that aspect.
   ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 10:06, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

I fixed the license. Yann (talk) 09:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you, Enhancing999 and Yann! I changed the template accordingly (note: I could not apply the license-fix to the structured data because PD-old-100-expired could not be reconciled with Wikidata). Otherwise, the output looks a lot nicer now due to the incorporation of the file name structure in the Information-Box. See test-image 6. If there are no further suggestions until tomorrow, I am going to start with the batch upload (first small chunks, later larger ones). CalRis25 (talk) 17:46, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@CalRis25: can you explain what you mean by "PD-old-100-expired could not be reconciled with Wikidata"? Copyright status for Lot and His Daughters (Q3837479) would appear to be exactly equivalent to that. - Jmabel ! talk 21:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Quite simple. If I put {{PD-old-100-expired}} into a CSV-column of the OpenRefine-input file and reconcile this column with Wikidata, then I get the result "Create the new item." If, however, this column contains {{PD-old-100}}, then I get the reconciliation-result 100 years or more after author(s) death (Q29940705). — Preceding unsigned comment added by CalRis25 (talk • contribs) 07:29, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Does anyone know how to address this in Wikidata and/or OpenRefine?

Failing that, can OpenRefine handle multiple permission tags? If your cannot use {{PD-old-100-expired}} can you use {{PD-old-100}} plus {{PD-US-expired}}? - Jmabel ! talk 12:50, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello Jmabel! I am moving this specific discussion to this Village_pump/Copyright-thread, as that seems to be the appropriate place to discuss this. Thank you for your support. CalRis25 (talk) 11:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

At Abacus 4.1, I did a sample alternative formatting. The idea is to start with the description of the image "Abacus" and making that easily editable by other users. The remaining of the description being more static, it's in "other fields 1". Possibly "Type of object image is based on:" could be copied into the description as well. "Place of discovery" and "Place in 1849" maybe too, but they are empty in this sample.
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 22:21, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Your edit of the formatting makes sense, because it better distinguishes the bits that are likely to be edited by users and those which will stay the same. I moved the Type- and Place-bits into the description, however, because that makes the information box easier to (mentally) digest. I also reordered it a bit. Thank you for your help. Abacus 4.1 looks better now and makes more sense. CalRis25 (talk) 13:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I'd avoid bold, field like parts in the description text entirely. How about Special:Diff/919327534: If the text for SAMPLE1 and SAMPLE2 is empty, these parts of description= would be skipped. They'd still be present in other_fields_1 below.
 ∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 14:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I disagree. Comparing my previous version with your change, I think that the first one is better: Reasons: a) most image-specific stuff (i.e. different from image to image) is close together, b) all items reasonably expected to be changed are within the same box, c) items like type and place without attached information clearly indicate that this information is missing and should be added, and d) SAMPLE1 and SAMPLE2 not necessarily are nouns which can be simply replaced. Your template is more machine-compatible, I guess, by isolating each item of information, but at the price of making the information more difficult to be digested by us lowly humans. I believe, that a more anthropocentric approach is better in this case. I will revert to my previous edit, but thank you for your effort. CalRis25 (talk) 14:49, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello Enhancing999! I'm referring to your latest edit of the file Abacus 4.1. From this new alternative formatting of the template and the first and second alternative formattings before that, I take that keeping the information about type and place in separate fields (other fields) and keeping the description simple is a big issue. If that is so, I think that version 1 of these alternative formattings (with a bit of reshuffling of the order) is preferable. If I understood your edits correctly, please say so. I will then change the template accordingly before beginning the actual batch-upload. CalRis25 (talk) 22:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@CalRis25: I suggest you put the text of the "Structure of the file name" section into a template; or better still, put it on the parent category page and use a short template message on each file page to refer people there. You could probably also template the {{para|source}] data. Finally, apply a category like "1849 woodcuts". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:40, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Someone already changed the "Structure"-section into a template (thanks to whoever did it). I added the category 1849 illustrations instead of 1849 woodcuts, because I am not entirely sure about the exact type of reproduction used. I will leave the source-data in the Information-box itself without using a template. I am happy enough with how it looks now, and I do not think that any changes to the source section will be necessary. Plus, it now includes the respective lemma with a link to the page in the Archive.org-edition. In the worst case scenario, a batch-edit using OpenRefine should do the trick. CalRis25 (talk) 14:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

আমার ছবি আপলোড করতে চাই কিভাবে করবো অভিজ্ঞতা সম্পন্ন কেই সহযোগিতা করুন।

আমার ছবি আপলোড করতে চাই কিভাবে করবো অভিজ্ঞতা সম্পন্ন কেই সহযোগিতা করুন। মহিউদ্দিন খান উইকিপিডিয়া (talk) 06:36, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Help:Contents/hi, Commons:First_steps/Uploading_files/hi. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

This is not Hindi, but Bengali ;o). So rather Help:Contents/bn, Commons:First_steps/Uploading_files/bn. Yann (talk) 09:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Yikes. I can confirm this was my error and DuckDuckGo got it correct. :/ Thanks/merci, Yann. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:25, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

গ্ৰামের ছবি নেই তাহলে কি করব

গ্ৰামের ছবি নেই তাহলে কি করব Mizanur mondal (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

(via Google Translate:) "What should I do if there is no picture of the village?"

• @Mizanur mondal: If you have taken a picture yourself and would like to upload it (with appropriate license) that would be great, see Commons:First_steps/Uploading_files/bn. If not, you'll have to ask a more specific question. - Jmabel ! talk 21:50, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Help needed with 273 images (move)

All images (currently 273) in Category:Locator maps of Bundestag constituencies should be moved to the subcategory Bundestagswahlkreise 2025. Too many to move manually. Thanks 2003:E5:370F:FC00:F4D1:7BC:AB59:276E 22:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

•  Done I would like to strongly urge you to create an account. Trusting you on this required a leap of faith on my part, because I really don't know the subject matter here, and a particular IP address could easily be a different person than last edited from that address. If you edit while logged in to an account, it is much easier to be confident that you have a track record of being competent and well-intentioned. - Jmabel ! talk 22:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

File:Taiwan Pride 2011-10-29 073 (6302568080).jpg

This picture was taken too dark, so I need someone with experience in photo retouching or image manipulation. I would be extremely grateful if you could please improve the brightness.--125.230.67.195 07:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

I recommend posting your request here: Commons:Graphic Lab/Photography workshop. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 12:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello

I would like to ask everyone if the image I uploaded is legal. It was taken at Mahathir Mohamad birth home and is a photo from before 1962 (taken in 1939). Baginda 480 (talk) 11:23, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Baginda 480: We have no way to know the publication history or the death date of the author. It is your responsibility to sort out this sort of thing for photos you upload. - Jmabel ! talk 17:56, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Can you upload photos of football NEW cards

I have been in hot water lately for photos that I did not realize were copyrighted. So I was wondering if I took photos of football cards would that still be a copyright violation even though I took the photo of the card, yes I know this is a dumb and stupid question, but I just want to know. WhyIsThisSoHard575483838 (talk) 15:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

You should assume that any piece of media is copyrighted until you know otherwise. The most common exceptions to this in the United States are works that are very old (usually about a century) or that were made by the federal government. There are obviously other exceptions, but those are the biggest. Sometimes when someone owns the copyright to a work, he will license it in a way that allows it to be shared. If the copyright owner does this, it will always be very clear, because that person will explicitly tell you, usually with some kind of Creative Commons notice. See COMM:LICENSE for acceptable licenses. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Probably not. Unless something is explicitly free licensed (see COM:Licence) or out of copyright for a demonstrable explicit reason, generally assume it is copyrighted and cannot be uploaded to Commons (unless the copyright holder gives specific permission to share it under a free license). -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 16:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@WhyIsThisSoHard575483838: I strongly recommend that if you are interested in uploading images that are not entirely your own original work you should make a point of becoming at least passingly familiar with the copyright laws of the country you live in. - Jmabel ! talk 17:59, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

File:YoonA performing at MBC 2017 DMZ Peace Concert.jpg

This picture shows that she deliberately puffing out her chest forward when dancing. Do we have a category for "women puffing their chests"?--125.230.85.74 07:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Im sure you can make one if you really want to Anthony2106 (talk) 10:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Uploaden and what next?

Sorry, I am an absolute beginner. I tried to upload text to be published in Wikipedia, I managed to reach the first step, What do I need to do next? Zzylicz (talk) 14:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Zzylicz, presumably you are asking about edits you made on the Polish or Dutch Wikipedias. You have to ask on those Wikipedias. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Different scans of old photos

I uploaded a file called File:Liu Hongsheng in Volume 10 of "Xikao".png.It is a screenshot of a scanned copy of a book published in 1920, but it's very unclear. I found a clearer version on other page[4], so can I upload it? If so, should I replace the picture or upload it as an another picture? 杰里毛斯 (talk) 15:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

You can upload it as a new file. We have a very clear list of reasons that overwriting is allowed. Otherwise, always upload as a new file. All the Best -- Chuck ^Talk 15:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm not sure if the photo on the webpage have been digitally restored. If it's restored by others, can I still upload it? Sorry for my poor English. ——杰里毛斯 (talk) 16:09, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

The file has not been restored by others, you can go ahead and upload the new file. Hypothetically, if someone had already overwritten the file with the restoration, If there are significant changes made, someone would have forked the files as commons policy is significant restorations are uploaded separately. All the Best -- Chuck ^Talk 16:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, My English is poor. What I mean is that the color of the picture I picked from the book is quite different from that in the website I cited above. I don't know if the one in the website has been artificially repaired, and I don't know if such a repair will be protected by copyright.——杰里毛斯 (talk) 16:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't believe restorations are covered by copyright as they are not artistic in nature. In general, once due diligence is done, you are good to upload. If your image is deleted, learn from it and avoid repeating that mistake. No one is expected to be perfect. All the Best -- Chuck ^Talk 16:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I have uploaded it as a new file.——杰里毛斯 (talk) 03:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Watchlist view older entries

The watchlist on url Special:Watchlist only has options for showing entries up to 30 days old. How can I view older entrries?

Dubidubno (talk) 13:01, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

This is not possible for technical reasons. You can subscribe to your own watchlist via RSS or email and keep an archive of every update, but note that email will only send you a new email if you haven't viewed a page and will not send emails for bot edits. So to have an indefinitely long-term watchlist, use RSS subscriptions. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 13:13, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Help with finding out which liscence I need.

The image in question.

Hello, I am trying to upload a promotional image for a television series but can't find the correct correct liscence to fill out the details in order to upload it even though it falls under fair use. What should I do? Need help! 1zdoqnrh5 (talk) 19:15, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@1zdoqnrh5: Commons does not accept images on a "fair use" basis. We accept only images that are either in the public domain or have a license free enough to allow commercial use and derivative works. It is unlikely that either of these will be the case for a promotional image for any television show. There might be a handful of exceptions, but almost none of them will be for anything in the last 35 years or so. - Jmabel ! talk 21:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Also, even if not relevant to Commons: there is literally no such thing as an image being "fair use" in its own right. "Fair use" always refers to a particular use being allowed without needing to license the image: e.g. that in reviewing a record, you can show a low-res version of the album jacket, or that in writing about a piece of art you can use a low-resolution image of the art. - Jmabel ! talk 21:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. I uploaded an image. Can you tell me if I got the license right? It's a promotional photo for a television character. If not, what license would it fall under? Thank you in advance. 1zdoqnrh5 (talk) 21:53, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@1zdoqnrh5: License is incorrect since fandom is not the copyright holder. We'd need VRT permission from the photographer or from the production company. You might be able to upload it to English Wikipedia as a non-free photo if it's going to be used in an article about Dexter Morgan, the character. Abzeronow (talk) 22:10, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I am trying to get hold of the photographer by email, awaiting a response. How would I go about uploading it as a non-free photo to the English Wikipedia? 1zdoqnrh5 (talk) 22:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@1zdoqnrh5: I'm not at all sure this would qualify for non-free use on en-wiki. It is rare that photographs of living people are accepted on that basis, but maybe if it is about the character they would accept it, because it is probably very hard to get a free-licensed photo of the actor in character. The policies are a bit complicated; you might want to read en:Wikipedia:Non-free content, but at least have a look at en:Wikipedia:Plain and simple non-free content guide. You can go ahead and try, but please don't be offended if the verdict there is also to delete.

Technically, uploading a non-free image to en-wiki is pretty easy. You upload from en:Special:Upload; you use en:Template:Non-free use rationale in lieu of {{Information}}. - Jmabel ! talk 00:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Or you start at WP:FUW and chose "Upload a non-free file". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I will have a read and try to upload it! 1zdoqnrh5 (talk) 16:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

The en-WP rule for a non-free pic in an article about a fictional character is basically "ONE is allowed if there is no "free-use", the lead-image." So if your alt is to be used as non-free, the other one will have to disappear. If this is a good exchange is up for debate. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:38, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Uploading Pictures Given By Subject

Hello! I am currently the creator of the Darnell Edge Wiki page. I recently had images I used taken down by administration, even though I cited the sources I received them from. Now, I have received new images to use from Darnell himself to use, as these are his own pictures from his Instagram. Can I use these, as I do have permission, and how would I go about uploading and providing proof? InfinitiBowie97 (talk) 20:25, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@InfinitiBowie97: Who took the photos? Copyright normally belongs to the photographer, not the subject. Unless they are selfies, or the copyright has been legally transferred (which not all countries allow during the photographer's lifetime) the subject would not own the copyright.

Usually the easiest way to do this is for the copyright-holder to post these to a web domain or public-facing social media page (Facebook, Flickr, X/Twitter) that is clearly under their control, with an indication of the particular license they offer. Then anyone can cite the relevant URL as the source, and upload here with that license.

If for some reason that won't work for them, they can instead send confidential correspondence as described at COM:VRT, indicating that they own the copyright (usually because they took the photo) and that they are offering a license. (It's a little complicated, but if you read that page you will presumably understand.)

But in any case: there is literally no substitute for the copyright-holder being the one who owns the license. Otherwise, it would be like me selling you the Brooklyn Bridge. - Jmabel ! talk 21:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi! I see, thank you for clarifying! So just to clarify, I cannot use any images from a public article (news for instance) and just cite the source, I have to get actual permission from the reporter or find where their licensing info is on that article's webpage, and link that? InfinitiBowie97 (talk) 22:12, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@InfinitiBowie97: Close. Typically the photographer, not the reporter. And it is very unlikely that any content (photos or otherwise) from commercial media will be free-licensed. They don't make their money by giving away their rights.

If any of the pictures Darnell Edge provided you are taken by someone he is in touch with, by far your best bet is to have him put you in touch with the photographer and do one of the two things I advised in my previous response. - Jmabel ! talk 00:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Okay great! So if the creator of the photo decides to sign off on permission, they just have to send an email to permissions-commonswikimedia.org to confirm usage? InfinitiBowie97 (talk) 00:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@InfinitiBowie97: We need a permission for a free license, not just usage. Usually, that means {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}} or {{Cc-by-4.0}}. Yann (talk) 07:41, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Can I upload this old photo?

Hi, new to Wikipedia/Wikimedia and would like to know if I am allowed to upload this photo to Wikimedia. He was a civil war veteran, founded a town in my state, and is my close relative. I don't know who took the photo, but I found it here. The site says it was contributed by the Clark County Historical Museum. Would I have to get in touch with the museum to upload the photo? Do I need permission? What would I need from them? Sorry if this is a lot, again never uploaded a photo here before and a bit intimidated Greening5 (talk) 00:26, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@Greening5 Welcome! (1841-1889) so yes, that's fine since US-stuff from before 1929 is fine, see for example Commons:Hirtle chart. When you upload it, the "license" is {{PD-US-expired}}. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:22, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Saya punya kendala dengan code penarinkan apa untuk mendapat kode pakai biaya

@nuriati Bujroh (talk) 00:52, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Per my google-translation of your message, you're on the wrong website. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Aide

Beaucoup de difficulté pour restaurer tous les pages Moncefdhk999 (talk) 09:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Help

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Lots of difficulty restoring all pages

translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:54, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@Moncefdhk999: Bonjour et bienvenue. Quelles pages essayez-vous de restaurer ?

Hi, and welcome. What pages are you trying to restore?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:46, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

The OP was globally locked thanks to EPIC.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Resolved

I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 12:19, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

public artworks

I took this photo. is it alowed to be on commons? I don't know who made the artwork but it is in public. this photo is in public that hasnt been delted so maybe mine is ok? I should of came here first before uploading sorry. Anthony2106 (talk) 10:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@Anthony2106: Hi, and welcome. Who painted it, when and where? What permission did they give? How may we verify that? See also COM:EVID and COM:DW.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Assuming that is Australia or New Zealand, I believe you are out of luck. They are not among the (very few) countries that offer freedom of panorama for "graphic works". - Jmabel ! talk 12:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

how did you guess Australia and New Zealand? cus it is Australia, its on the file it has the location

anyway ive marked this file as speedy delete Anthony2106 (talk) 12:22, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Adding all images in a category to a watchlist

Is there an easy way to do this? Not the category itself, but the individual images within it. Thanks, Choliamb (talk) 12:16, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@Choliamb: Hi, and welcome. While your account is set to "Add pages and files I edit to my watchlist" in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist (the default), you may use one of our file-related tools like VFC, AWB, or COM:JWB to prepend {{subst:void}}.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I see. First ensure that every file I edit is added to my watchlist, then make a null edit to every file I want to watch. Clever. But will the addition of the void show up as an edit in the file's edit history? I'd like to avoid driving other users crazy by saturation bombing their watchlists with a string of identical edits that do nothing. Choliamb (talk) 18:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Rather than make a string of nothing edits, a fairly easy way to do this is with AWB: you can make a list of pages from a category, copy and paste that list into your raw watchlist, and this can be done in two minutes without making needless edits. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

File:Flag of France (1794–1815, 1830–1974, 2020-present).svg

Due to a move or redirect there were caused tons of problems at least in dewiki, see for instance de:Liste der Olympiasieger im alpinen Skisport, de:Portugal International 2006. Suggested solution from me: Also before present there should probably be a long hyphen, i.e. move back the file to Flag of France (1794–1815, 1830–1974, 2020–present).svg. Florentyna (talk) 15:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Пишет про ошибку LTA 263

Хочу загрузить фотографии на конкурс по памятникам, но у меня выскакивает ошибка Алена Карюченко (talk) 18:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)